The conservative media personalities Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens got into a heated online exchange that quickly went off the rails over the weekend as they battled it out over the issue of whether or not college students who have shown support for Hamas while protesting against Israel should be blacklisted by future employers.
CEOs Looking to Blacklist Harvard Students Who Signed Anti-Israel Letter
Multiple American CEOs have expressed a willingness to blacklist Harvard students who blamed Israel for the violence perpetrated by Hamas against Israeli citizens. https://t.co/oyBZbzXImi
— Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis (@DrLoupis) October 16, 2023
Students In Danger Of Being Blacklisted For Hamas Support
The New York Post reported that CEOs have been moving to blacklist Harvard students who supported a letter that blamed Israel for the slaughter of its own people by Hamas terrorists. The Republican presidential Vivek Ramaswamy, a graduate of Harvard, responded by taking to the social media platform X (formerly known as Twitter) to say that it was “not productive” to blacklist these students.
“The Harvard student groups who co-signed the anti-Israel letter are simple fools,” Ramaswamy wrote. “But it’s not productive for companies to blacklist kids for being members of student groups that make dumb political statements on campus.”
“It’s not great now if companies refuse to hire kids who were part of student groups that once adopted the wrong view on Israel,” he continued. “This isn’t a legal point, it’s a cultural point. I say this as someone who vehemently disagrees with those Harvard student groups.”
The Harvard student groups who co-signed the anti-Israel letter are simple fools. But it’s not productive for companies to blacklist kids for being members of student groups that make dumb political statements on campus. Colleges are spaces for students to experiment with ideas &…
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) October 15, 2023
Kelly Supports Blacklisting
This did not sit well with the former Fox News host Megyn Kelly, who expressed her firm belief that any college student who supports Hamas deserves to be blacklisted from future employment.
“If they are not ‘persuaded’ that murdering babies is wrong, there is no ‘persuading’ them,” Kelly wrote, referring to reports that Hamas terrorists have been brutally murdering Israeli babies.
“We don’t hire those who do the killing & we don’t hire those who applaud the killers while the savagery is underway,” she continued. “If you are open to hiring one of these lunatics, tho, good to know!”
If they are not “persuaded” that murdering babies is wrong, there is no “persuading” them. We don’t hire those who do the killing & we don’t hire those who applaud the killers while the savagery is underway. If you are open to hiring one of these lunatics, tho, good to know!
— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) October 15, 2023
Owens Defends College Students
Enter the rightwing media personality Candace Owens, who has a different perspective on the situation. While she doesn’t support Hamas terrorists herself, she knows from experience that one’s views in college do not necessarily reflect how they will evolve as a person gets older.
“Oh stop it. This is incredibly disingenuous, Megyn,” Owens wrote in response to Kelly. “You know that many of those students are not out there because they want babies to be murdered. College kids are stupid.”
“I used to be radically pro-choice,” Owens added. “Glad I didn’t get put on a ‘conservative’ black list for wanting babies murdered. As it turned out, I was just young and temporarily brainwashed from a public school education coupled with mainstreamed Hollywood lies— and not because I legitimately wanted to see infants torn from their mothers’ wombs.”
“Students are young and experimenting,” she concluded. “You are an adult woman who is advocating for their lives to be permanently pigeonholed because they have the wrong ideas which are likely being spoon fed to them in their classrooms.”
Oh stop it. This is incredibly disingenuous, Megyn.
You know that many of those students are not out there because they want babies to be murdered.
College kids are stupid. I used to be radically pro-choice. Glad I didn’t get put on a “conservative” black list for wanting… https://t.co/fxvnxUmSZY— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) October 15, 2023
Battle Between Kelly And Owens Escalates
Mediaite reported that the battle between the two women only devolved from there, with Kelly firing back by saying that having a liberal point of view on other issues is not the same “as taking to the streets to cheer murdered babies and blame said murders on the victims. But you go ahead and hire as many of them as you want Candace. I’m sure the Daily Wire will love that.”
Daily Wire currently employs Owens.
Not stopping there, Kelly also said that when it comes to her own show, she’ll be hiring interns “who saw murdered grandmas and entire families burned in their homes and easily identified this as a terrorist attack they would never in a million years defend.”
K I look forward to seeing them intern on your show and your reeducation of them. Me? I’ll be hiring the ones who saw murdered grandmas and entire families burned in their homes and easily identified this as a terrorist attack they would never in a million years defend. https://t.co/V6RihyXsx6
— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) October 15, 2023
“You’re attempting snark, but as a matter of fact, I almost exclusively hired reformed BLM activists to work for my charity, BLEXIT,” Owens hit back in response. “They actually proved to be the most dedicated employees to the cause because the mission was personal to them…Students can change. I am living proof of it. Cultural propaganda coupled with educational brainwash has proven potent, but not irreversible.”
“I don’t mind your ire directed toward their administrators and professors (the root cause of their madness) but you are being entirely disingenuous when it comes to the students,” she added.
You’re attempting snark, but as a matter of fact, I almost exclusively hired reformed BLM activists to work for my charity, BLEXIT. They actually proved to be the most dedicated employees to the cause because the mission was personal to them.
Students can change. I am living… https://t.co/XskUm7gxny
— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) October 15, 2023
“Awesome! Keep it rolling!” Kelly sarcastically replied. “Students for Justice in Palestine will love your thoughtful lessons on how it’s bad to murder Jews. Can’t wait to see you turn their lives around.”
Awesome! Keep it rolling! Students for Justice in Palestine will love your thoughtful lessons on how it’s bad to murder Jews. Can’t wait to see you turn their lives around. https://t.co/l5hSbuaOdK
— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) October 15, 2023
Who Is In The Right?
Kelly and Owens continued to take personal jabs at one another in the hours after that, but their main points were already made, and they each have interesting perspectives on this situation.
While it can be argued that college students are technically adults who deserve to be held accountable for their actions, it can also be argued that they are still young and inexperienced enough that their views will inevitably evolve over time, meaning they don’t necessarily deserve to be blacklisted for life for a radical political opinion that they once had in their youth.
Kinda enjoying having this Candace Owens – Megyn Kelly fight unfolding in my feed this evening.
It's actually an argument over blacklisting young people for their current political positions (Candace is on the tolerant end of the debate), but it got personal fast. pic.twitter.com/VAQdTJO5MC
— Ian Garrick Mason (@iangarrickmason) October 16, 2023
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Kelly of course. When you add forgiveness or leniency to bad decisions or political posturing you add fuel to fire and that creates overwhelming odds for others’ beliefs and actions.
Oh, but you are happy to point out Biden’s associations with KKK elite 50 years ago, or was it 60?
All this says to me is that perhaps 18 is the wrong age number for voting age. Of course that goes back to the draft, which if Biden gets 4 more years we will see revived.
A lot of those students are Palestinian. Please! they are not going to change for all the tea in China! This is totally different than we have ever had in this country before. What we are witnessing is not only completely sick and evil, but we are in the misted of great danger! These protestors want the downfall of the United States and Christianity! In fact, a lot of these people don’t belong in the United States. In addition, this is a high security risk becuase some of these YOUTH! are possible terrorists! I think Candece is very naive, and shockingly lukewarm about what is happening. She should know better than this becuase of her position and her access to endless Knowlege. After all this she comes up with this conclusion about this matter, then there is something wrong with her.
I actually looked it up and Moses was the who opened up the RED SEA so because GOD chose Moses from birth to take the Israelites out of Egypt to the land GOD promised them, Canaan. For those of you who want to read the full story it starts in Genesis. Read the Introduction and then follow it through okay and spread the word! Jess
Megan! I am with you as I do not condone any who just Arbitrarily and Slaughterous, MURDER ON ANYONE JUST because of Hatred for another RACE! NO matter what their race or what the age they may be it Old people through Infants! It is Unconscionable as Hamas, Iranians nor Palestine have a Conscience! This fighting has been has all been going on for Centuries and you can read it for your self in the BIBLE! I remember all this going on way back in Sunday school as a young child! If you look at the Bible and read through like I have you will see a huge pattern of all this infighting has been going on since for as long as time it self has! Yes, it may have changed in subtler ways, but all in all nothing has changed! Canaan -1.the land God promised to the nation of Israel;. the promised land.1Ch 16:18 “To you I will give the land of C. This is from the concordance of my Bible. Jess
The only way we will win the war against evil is to use their own methods against them. CANCEL THEM COMPLETLY.
A company runs on harmony of all the staff. You put these socialist radicals into it, your product will disintegrate!
I think most college students today are gravely misinformed and thereby plain stupid! Blacklisting them is not the answer but listing them are extreme viewed in useful. They need to be educated and if the refuse to accept the real truth then blake list the idiots!
I agree with Kelly.
During the final years of Vietnam, I was a typical student leftist radical at Columbia University. Later, still during Vietnam, I enlisted in the US military and reenlisted several times. Recently, when conversing with a fellow conservative, I was asked, “What converted a progressive leftist into a patriot?” My reply?: “I grew up!”
Candace, I really thought higher of you! Four college students were recently brutally murdered for no reason in Idaho, most likely by prime suspect Bryan Christopher Kohberger. If he committed this act, he is a young criminal, which by your standards should be forgiven. The killings in Israel were evil, just like the Idaho killings. Anyone who thinks unjustified murder is somehow okay is more than brainwashed! I am more than disappointed, but rather disgusted by your view Candace.
Well when someone assaults kills and torture neatt or in your house. Think about that comment! Whe. Hitler invaded France it started WW2, Hamas wanted a war, they got it!
Eva, you don’t understand what Candace was saying. She didn’t say Hamas militants who raped women and cut heads off babies should be forgiven. She suggested that young, impressionable, brain-washed students (who clearly didn’t kill anyone) should be given a little slack, despite their disgusting, misguided protests. These young people ARE confused, but they still have time to grow and redeem themselves. Many of us held views in our 20’s that we’re now ashamed of, as Candace rightly observes.
Hiring should be controlled by those doing the hiring. They should have the right to not hire whomever they want for whatever reason they want. It’s called PRIVATE enterprise. With that said, I don’t think assuming some of these students (probably a very small percentage) will make a U-turn and change their passionate well entrenched rather sick beliefs. What kind of a mind supports and, celebrates and even cheers on a serial bloodbath of another race of people? It goes way beyond border disputes or retribution, it is evil intent. If these students can’t distinguish between good and evil now, giving them responsible jobs and hope they eventually see the light is dangerous? That is likely a recipe for future disaster. It’s those student’s responsibility to prove they have changed, not the employers position to be intimidated or shamed into hiring them and hope they change and denounce their position with evil forces.
I am disappointed in Candace Owens.
Candace is right, college students are stupid. That’s why they are targeted and recruited by most radical causes. They are loud, energetic, clueless and easily led: “useful idiots”. Easy pickings for Leftist causes. But Megyn has a good point, too: Actions have consequences. Most corporate enterprises have their own cultures and expect their employment hires to share similar attitudes.
That CEOs make their cultural hiring practices known to new graduates, is not unusual, either. Called “Black Listing” or otherwise, it exists, has for decades. It is not new. But given the “woke” culture that is sweeping the current job market, those being “black listed” by some will soon find employment among other corps that do have an anti-semite culture, and could even seek some of these folk out, as well. You don’t find many long-haired, sandal-wearing, messaged t-shirt clad individuals employed at IBM or at NYC or DC or Wall Street serving law firms. But Bezos or Jersey or Zuckerberg have made employment homes for these outspoken individuals who do share their woke culture.
But one thing has always been true: insiders always get hired, others have to work a little harder to get there.
College students are adults. Many are perennial or grad students. They should be judged by the totality of their actions and statements up until the present day. If they change, they can be hired when and if that happens. Meanwhile, libertarians and conservatives are discriminated against for their good viewpoints. Let each employer make their own decision based on their judgments, the market should decide.
I’m a bit confused by Vivek’s comments. He seems to be drawing a line between students who make statements and students who simply belong to organizations that make statements. I’m not aware of statements by employers saying they discriminate based on membership and not statements.
I would personally not believe anything Vivek has to say and this why. The night of the
the first debate he said ” I am a HIndu, not Christian, so what does he really support if he isn’t a Christian? He is a very fast talker and very smooth just like Obama is and was when he was running for president! I do not trust Vivek period and nor do I believe everything he says beings as he got a lot of help from the Soros family! He likes to play both sides of the party and talks out of both sides of his mouth, is politically split about too! much!!
Megyn Kelly is right on this issue, and I like her views. Though I agree with Candace on her views, I disagree on this one. The only thing I may grant is an opportunity to repent for the students before being blacklisted.
Anyone, particularly those that made it to college, should already know the evil that prevails in Hamas’s actions is not acceptable in any society or situation and certainly not to be celebrated. Accountability for decisions leading to action is always beneficial to correction.
Remember it is “they” who chant: Allahu Akbar! (الله أكبر), Death to Infidels. Wake up World we are the Infidels!
Amen Amen Amen!
Obviously, anyone can change his mind about a situation. I’m usually very pro-Candace, but this event truly separates the mice from the men. There’s no need to have a blacklist. Just submit into each student’s file documents showing the student was part of a group who did what they did. When those papers are sent to potential employers, this can be discussed in the interview. Let him support his previous acts or show why he’s changed his mind.
I agree with Megyn
I disagree with Vivek and Candice
I don’t like Vivek at all! The guy doesn’t care what happens in Ireal, I’m not a fan of Nicky Haley per se, but when Vivek said she is making money off what is happening in Israel I thought that was totally rotten! My mother said. Vivek bothers her becuase the guy is too slick! Also, I don’t like anyone who was or is connected with the tech industry in any way. I live in Silicon Valley, and I can’t stand these arrogant tech millennials!
Leftist students already support abortion which murders a live baby.
It’s a small step from supporting terrorism to doing terrorism, as we see from young male terrorists in Gaza.
Leftist students already participate in violent protests and drown out Conservative speakers in many college campuses. They practice what they believe.
When the student has an epiphany and realizes terrorism is truly immoral,
he or she can apologize and be forgiven as Candace was.
Both are right & wrong
They are both pitted against each other by those who control the system.
Divide & conquer. Both sides are being killed intentionally, by those who are
Trying to create a depopulation world war. The depopulation agenda in Ukraine did not work, as the biological labs were captured, so the next move was to start a war in the Holy lands, killing both sides. In Israel the people revolted when the controllers tried to remove the constitution after the nuclide altering j&a#b
The common people on both sides are victims. The current control system is failing and we are going into another system. There is a reason the current Administrators were not given the nuclear codes for the military.
I stand with Megyn Kelly. But first we need too get rid of all Professors that teach those type of teaching in universities. We need to clear those and clean them out first or will never change the young people’s impressionable minds.
How about a compromise? Don’t hire them for 10 years to give them a chance to mature, but only if they join the military.
A great Idea ,do you think they would do that? I guess time will tell right!
Owens won that, hands down.
I understand Kelly’s anger, and I am angry at these stupid collage and disgusted with their administrators (Who should be fired). I however have to agree with Candace. Most do change as adults. Some will never change but that is a different topic all together. I used to be left leaning when I was younger but soon realized what the left were all about and changed my tune. Once you start working for a livings and supporting a family, you start to understand what real life is about. Clean out the Liberal leftest Teachers and higher ups who think they know better than you. They are not tolerant as they claim.
Sorry, Candace, I have to side with Megyn on this one. How else will these morons ever understand that words have meaning and there are consequences for foolish acts?
I agree that it’s very likely that their views will change and evolve. That being said, they can reinvent themselves later and apologize for their distorted view of reality then.
I have to say that blacklisting the students who came out in support of the hideous Hamas attack on Israeli citizens needs to be. These aren’t “kids.” They are all adults over the age of 18 and are supposed to think and act AS ADULTS! In our society, there needs to be some consequences for bad actions and poor judgement. This is almost the equivalent of the current two tiered justice system here. Until they realize that they are hatefully wrong in their attitudes and actions, they won’t be productive members of our society, so leave them jobless or starting at the bottom. Can they say, “Would you like fries with that?”
Nothing wrong with giving the students a reason to reconsider the brainwashed life views they have been getting and paying for. Maybe they will insist on a different college environment instead of continuing the present left-wing teaching,
Interesting points made by both Owens and Kelly. I was disappointed it got so heated and personal. This should be a rational debate and no ill feelings should be exchanged. This is what is wrong in the political arena, especially when the ire is between two respected conservatives. Stop it! BTW, I agree some type of sanctions should be placed on those students that express support for the barbarism by Hamas, but may be not for life. These students are obviously ignorant and stupid by any measure, but is it youth or malice that drives them now?
With hamas and the muslim brotherhood imbeded in these campuses, They have been indoctrinated , good luck fixing that. I don’t work beside these people. Hamas wants to kill us. These protests are worse than hate speech.