The evidence is clear that if you want to live in a well-run state, you’re better off moving to a red one
A study by the non-profit group Truth in Accounting looked at the public financing and debt burdens of all fifty states, which have a total of $1.5 trillion in long-term debt. In blue states, there is an average of $22,214 in unfunded debt. In red states, that taxpayer burden is only $1,473.
Every day, roughly 1,000 people move from blue states to red states on net balance. That’s good news for red states. In 2013, Florida gained $8.2 billion in adjusted gross income from out-of-staters. Texas gained $5.9 billion in one year. And given the more business-friendly environment in red states, they tend to outperform their liberal counterparts in both population and job growth.
If you want a more extreme example, look no further than the most liberal state in the nation: California.
According to Politifact, which was rating the truthfulness of a statement from California Republican Chad Mayes that “California has ‘the highest poverty rate in the nation’ when considering the U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure (adjusting for the cost of living),” California truly is now the poorest state in the nation.
From the report: “From 2013 to 2015, California had America’s 17th-highest poverty rate, 15 percent, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Official Poverty Measure. That measure uses income levels to determine poverty, but does not consider differences in cost-of-living among states. It lists the official poverty threshold for a two-adult, two-child family at $24,036 in 2015.
During the same period, California had the highest poverty rate, 20.6 percent, according to the census’ Supplemental Poverty Measure. That study does account for cost-of-living, including taxes, housing and medical costs, and is considered by researchers a more accurate reflection of poverty. For a two-adult, two-child family in California, the poverty threshold was an average of $30,000, depending on the region in the state, according to a 2014 analysis by Public Policy Institute of California. Looking at state poverty rates, the second highest is Florida’s 19 percent, followed by New York’s and Louisiana’s shared 17.9 percent rate. The national average is 15.1 percent using the supplemental measure.”
The #1 recipient of migrants from California is Texas, which shows that residents are fleeing the most liberal state to one of the least. In practically every economic measure, Texas does the opposite of California, and it’s worked out extremely well for them.
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The problem? They move from blue states to red ones, but they take their love of liberalism with them and start — immediately — trying to change their new habitat into what they left behind. They’re much too indoctrinated to realize they’re fouling their new nest the way they fouled the last one.
‘Every day, roughly 1,000 people move from blue states to red states on net balance. That’s good news for red states.’ IMO, this is NOT good news! This means the more Dems are moving to red states to change them to blue!
Within the margin of error, liberal California and conservative Florida have essentially the same poverty rates. Liberal New York and conservative Louisiana have the same poverty rate.
In fact if you bother to actually look at the poverty states, using the Supplemental Poverty Measure, you find California, Florida, Louisiana, New York, Arizona, Mississippi, Georgia, New Mexico, New Jersey, Virginia, Kentucky, Nevada, Hawaii, Texas and Arkansas. All fifteen states are at or below the rate for the United States. Did you notice how many of them are Red states run by conservatives? Most.
Cali-for-nia started going down hill soon after I left in 1967 while in Navy basic and A and C schools in San Diego. Several years latter back in Texas, I had the pleasure (sarcasm) of supervising hoards of them along with some from the East Coast, mainly NYC-ers. Talk about culture clashes. I was invited out to the parking lot many times because of their favorite sports teams failing to beat the Texas teams. Hyper sensitive at best, hostile at worst. And that’s what is running Austin, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio these days.
Jerry Brown has always been a joke. I know a retired Calif. HWY patrolman who said his group was responsible for taking Jerry to gay bathhouses. That is all well and good if that is what Jerry prefers, but why use taxpayer-funded vehicles for it.
As a teen, I once served Jerry’s father at a charity pit barbecue when he was Governor of California and he was a good man and did right by California. Who would have ever thought his son could drive the state off the rails as he has.
But I thought Jerry Brown was going to be our saviour, Maxine Waters would have us rise up above poverty and Nancy Pelosi would demand better schools and wages. Oops, looks like the idiot voters in California got it wrong … AGAIN!
We in Texas are fighting daily against the liberals moving here. We just imported about 4000 with Toyota and overnight our housing prices jumped about $100,000 each, at least. When our neighborhood Next Door site was talking about all the rats moving into attics with all the construction going on, one of the liberals lectured us on how the rats were here first and we were the interlopes, I nearly threw up. These loonies are just that…LOONY. Who else would worry about rats? I guess she lets them move into her attic and destroy it. Me, I have poison up there…the ONLY good rat is a dead rat.
“Every day, roughly 1,000 people move from blue states to red states on net balance. That’s good news for red states.”
No, it isn’t. Liberals, like locusts, destroy their environment then move on. California liberals have moved to — and destroyed — Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and Nevada, and are going to turn Arizona and Texas “blue” in just a few years.
So true. I am in Texas and I have listened to people over and over tell me how much smarter it was the way they did it in Michigan or California or New York. Now, I tell them that I understand…every place is better than Texas and everyone should just go back to where they came from. My husband got so fed up with it, he joked about going to the Red River and stopping anyone moving here from anywhere else.
We moved here from California in 1969 and with the exception of living abroad for 4+ years, have been here ever since. In the passing years we have watched as Texas has become less and less red because they come in determined to FIX our state.
You won’t see many of us moving to their blue states although I have met a few that I would like to encourage to leave Texas so they can go live with fellow wild-eyed, hair-standing-on-end liberals.
Sorry. I posted before I read yours.
I would definitely challenge the assertion that net movement from blue to red states is a good thing for the red states. Human nature is such that when people migrate, regrettably their expectation is more likely to be that new place should become more like where they came from rather than that they should adapt to the ideas and culture of the place to which they moved. If that means implementing the same poor policies which drove them to leave in the first place, that is hardly good news for their new neighborhood.
No, it doesn’t happen overnight…I don’t think it can happen ever. I have met one or two maniacal liberals who have changed their tune, but they are a rarity. Even with the nightmare of Obama and the Clintons, they see no problem with it because the MSM tells them over and over that Obama and the Ciintons were great people. How can you overcome that? I, as a determined conservative, am considered to be the wild-eyed one with them.
The problem with that is when all those liberals move to a conservative state they tend to bring their liberal idea with them they vote liberal and try to turn the Red state blue. They need to change their thinking ad that doesn’t happen over night.
I think pastime to allow Democrats vote for anything do with America, i seen plenty proof they have no clue how make things better for America
Misleading article. I moved to California 50 years ago from Ohio, and never looked back. I made and saved tons of money, and now own a good-sized manufacturing company. My employees, even those with high-school educations in low skill jobs, are all paid $50,000 to $80,000 a year, own nice houses, send their kids to college, etc. You have to be smart and work hard to succeed in California. I had about 5 Texans working for me when I was a VP at Lockheed, and ending up firing them because they were either too lazy or too stupid to do the work. The only reason that the statistics show California has lower-income residents is because of agriculture – California has more workers in agriculture than any other state, and these migrant workers are not paid well.
The libs need poverty to keep people dispirit enough o keep voting democrat,the democrat party would fold if everyone in their state was doing well.
‘Every day, roughly 1,000 people move from blue states to red states on net balance. That’s good news for red states.’ IMO, this is NOT good news! This means the more Dems are moving to red states to change them to blue!
The problem? They move from blue states to red ones, but they take their love of liberalism with them and start — immediately — trying to change their new habitat into what they left behind. They’re much too indoctrinated to realize they’re fouling their new nest the way they fouled the last one.
Within the margin of error, liberal California and conservative Florida have essentially the same poverty rates. Liberal New York and conservative Louisiana have the same poverty rate.
In fact if you bother to actually look at the poverty states, using the Supplemental Poverty Measure, you find California, Florida, Louisiana, New York, Arizona, Mississippi, Georgia, New Mexico, New Jersey, Virginia, Kentucky, Nevada, Hawaii, Texas and Arkansas. All fifteen states are at or below the rate for the United States. Did you notice how many of them are Red states run by conservatives? Most.
Cali-for-nia started going down hill soon after I left in 1967 while in Navy basic and A and C schools in San Diego. Several years latter back in Texas, I had the pleasure (sarcasm) of supervising hoards of them along with some from the East Coast, mainly NYC-ers. Talk about culture clashes. I was invited out to the parking lot many times because of their favorite sports teams failing to beat the Texas teams. Hyper sensitive at best, hostile at worst. And that’s what is running Austin, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio these days.
But I thought Jerry Brown was going to be our saviour, Maxine Waters would have us rise up above poverty and Nancy Pelosi would demand better schools and wages. Oops, looks like the idiot voters in California got it wrong … AGAIN!
Jerry Brown has always been a joke. I know a retired Calif. HWY patrolman who said his group was responsible for taking Jerry to gay bathhouses. That is all well and good if that is what Jerry prefers, but why use taxpayer-funded vehicles for it.
As a teen, I once served Jerry’s father at a charity pit barbecue when he was Governor of California and he was a good man and did right by California. Who would have ever thought his son could drive the state off the rails as he has.
“Every day, roughly 1,000 people move from blue states to red states on net balance. That’s good news for red states.”
No, it isn’t. Liberals, like locusts, destroy their environment then move on. California liberals have moved to — and destroyed — Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and Nevada, and are going to turn Arizona and Texas “blue” in just a few years.
We in Texas are fighting daily against the liberals moving here. We just imported about 4000 with Toyota and overnight our housing prices jumped about $100,000 each, at least. When our neighborhood Next Door site was talking about all the rats moving into attics with all the construction going on, one of the liberals lectured us on how the rats were here first and we were the interlopes, I nearly threw up. These loonies are just that…LOONY. Who else would worry about rats? I guess she lets them move into her attic and destroy it. Me, I have poison up there…the ONLY good rat is a dead rat.
I would definitely challenge the assertion that net movement from blue to red states is a good thing for the red states. Human nature is such that when people migrate, regrettably their expectation is more likely to be that new place should become more like where they came from rather than that they should adapt to the ideas and culture of the place to which they moved. If that means implementing the same poor policies which drove them to leave in the first place, that is hardly good news for their new neighborhood.
Sorry. I posted before I read yours.
So true. I am in Texas and I have listened to people over and over tell me how much smarter it was the way they did it in Michigan or California or New York. Now, I tell them that I understand…every place is better than Texas and everyone should just go back to where they came from. My husband got so fed up with it, he joked about going to the Red River and stopping anyone moving here from anywhere else.
We moved here from California in 1969 and with the exception of living abroad for 4+ years, have been here ever since. In the passing years we have watched as Texas has become less and less red because they come in determined to FIX our state.
You won’t see many of us moving to their blue states although I have met a few that I would like to encourage to leave Texas so they can go live with fellow wild-eyed, hair-standing-on-end liberals.
The problem with that is when all those liberals move to a conservative state they tend to bring their liberal idea with them they vote liberal and try to turn the Red state blue. They need to change their thinking ad that doesn’t happen over night.
No, it doesn’t happen overnight…I don’t think it can happen ever. I have met one or two maniacal liberals who have changed their tune, but they are a rarity. Even with the nightmare of Obama and the Clintons, they see no problem with it because the MSM tells them over and over that Obama and the Ciintons were great people. How can you overcome that? I, as a determined conservative, am considered to be the wild-eyed one with them.
I think pastime to allow Democrats vote for anything do with America, i seen plenty proof they have no clue how make things better for America
Misleading article. I moved to California 50 years ago from Ohio, and never looked back. I made and saved tons of money, and now own a good-sized manufacturing company. My employees, even those with high-school educations in low skill jobs, are all paid $50,000 to $80,000 a year, own nice houses, send their kids to college, etc. You have to be smart and work hard to succeed in California. I had about 5 Texans working for me when I was a VP at Lockheed, and ending up firing them because they were either too lazy or too stupid to do the work. The only reason that the statistics show California has lower-income residents is because of agriculture – California has more workers in agriculture than any other state, and these migrant workers are not paid well.
The libs need poverty to keep people dispirit enough o keep voting democrat,the democrat party would fold if everyone in their state was doing well.