Jason Hopkins on November 19, 2019
A Democratic lawmaker claimed during a congressional hearing that illegal immigration is not a crime, but rather a civil offense, prompting the former chief of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to tell him otherwise.
The House Homeland Security Committee held a hearing about the Migrant Protection Protocols, a program launched by the Trump administration in January, and how it has affected those seeking asylum in the United States. Numerous Democrats blasted the program, and criticized the Trump administration’s overall approach to managing the immigration crisis.
Former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thomas Homan served as the only minority witness for the subcommittee hearing. While answering questions about the White House’s immigration agenda, he entered into a back-and-forth with Texas Democrat Rep. Al Green over the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy and its relation to family separation.
“The interesting thing about your argument is that these people committed no crimes,” Green said to Homan, speaking about people who lodge an asylum claim after entering the country without proper authorization.
“You enter the United States illegally, it’s a crime. It’s 8 USC — 8 United States Code 1325. It’s a crime to enter the United States illegally,” Homan quickly responded.
The Texas Democrat then claimed that unauthorized entry was not a criminal offense, saying that “It is not a crime. It’s a civil offense.” Homan, again, told to him that this claim is incorrect.
“No sir, it is not. It is a violation of criminal code Title 8 United States Code 1325 — illegal entry into the United States. The first offense is a misdemeanor. The second offense, if you’ve been ordered to remove and return, is a felony,” the former ICE chief explained.
“I agree with that,” Green said in response. “I don’t differ with you on that point.” He then brought the conversation back to the topic of family separation.
Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, unauthorized entry into the U.S. is, in fact, a crime. First time offenders are slapped with misdemeanor, which can land them up to six months in prison. The crime is upgraded to a felony for anyone who attempts to enter the country illegally more than once, and the punishment can be up to two years in prison.
A growing number of Democratic presidential candidates, aware that illegal immigration is a crime, are pushing for it to be decriminalized. Former HUD Secretary Julian Castro not only wants to see illegal immigration become a civil offense, but he’s also called for the decriminalization of illegal re-entry.
This is not the first time Homan has corrected a Democratic lawmaker on the criminality of unauthorized entry. During a congressional hearing in July, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attempted to conflate illegal entry with the legal act of claiming asylum.
“Mr. Homan, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime,” Ocasio-Cortez said at the time. “Seeking asylum is legal.”
“If you want to seek asylum, you go through the port of entry. Do it the legal way,” Homan told Ocasio-Cortez during that July hearing.
At the end of the Homeland Security Committee hearing on Tuesday, Green requested additional speaking time to provide “clarification” about his earlier statements. The Texas Democrat suggested that he wasn’t questioning the criminality of unauthorized entry, but was arguing that claiming asylum is not illegal. He accused the Trump administration of treating asylum seekers like criminals.
Homan was not given an opportunity to respond to the statement.
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