America has trillions of dollars of debt because of greedy politicians and the New York Times feels they NEED to look up and report on unauthorized tax information of a sitting president when he was a civilian – for what? What’s the end game here?
The #FakeNews media is apoplectic discussing a NY Times story on Donald Trump’s 1985 – 94 taxes. He wrote off a $ Billion in losses over 10 years WITHIN businesses that made money. He took risks & cleverly used the tax code. That’s something to be admired. https://t.co/vCgV95sftA
— David Burke (@ConservativeTht) May 8, 2019
To be clear, The Times did not obtain President Trump’s actual tax returns; rather they obtained printouts from his IRS transcripts with numbers from his tax form, 1040, from an individual who had legal access to them. Access is not an authorization to release them. The Times also proves that it no longer understands finance.
NYT, you are aware that your source committed a crime, and you have no legal protection to keep your source’s anonymity. You are an accessory if you do. There is absolutely no public interest or need to know about 30-year-old taxes.
So their source is willing to go to jail for illegal release of tax forms, for 20-30-year-old tax returns?
26 U.S. Code § 7213 — It shall be unlawful for any person to whom any return or return information (as defined in section 6103(b)) is disclosed in a manner unauthorized by this title thereafter willfully to print or publish in any manner not provided by law any such return or return information. Any violation of this paragraph shall be a felony punishable by a fine in any amount not exceeding $5,000, or imprisonment of not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.
The response to NYT is to question how much of their salaries do they donate to charities and good causes? I doubt any journalist, author, editor or NYT’s executives give a fraction of what Trump does, every year, or physically and emotionally demonstrates the care and concern Trump has for every American and especially for American Service Providers and Military.
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I’m sure the NYT and their communist allies have President Trump’s next ten years of tax returns as well, but they will never release them. They would show the massive gains and profits realized by Trump and his enterprises that were the direct result of the positioning Trump did in the decade ending in 1994. He acquired significant assets on the cheap after the 1990 recession — which hit the real estate sector particularly hard.
Did someone in IRS illegally leak @realDonaldTrump tax return info to @NYTimes? https://t.co/IkHbZyes5J
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) May 8, 2019
And for the record, Trump has never filed for bankruptcy personally. Businesses under his ownership did twice — both times for Chapter 9 reorganization, as I recall. Trump wasn’t like Mitt Romney and Bain Capital, which went around buying a business, closing them down, and selling off the parts.
It is impossible to assess and understand the operation, management, assets, various revenue streams, valuations and financial actions of significant business ventures through income tax summaries. One couldn’t fully understand all revenues, investments, assets, expenditures of families who calculate deductions via tax summaries.
Look at the losses of Google, Facebook, Amazon and the rest; they were all losing billions of dollars year after year until they started making a profit. Must be nice to create a company that losses billions to get a monopoly then start selling private info, overprice advertising, etc.
I’m not sure how they make any money, maybe it’s just a payoff scam system where big money comes in to be laundered and comes back by working with government and stocks. Who knows. The Wall Street guys look for people that will work with them on screwing others, so maybe that’s why they picked facebook over myspace.
I mean it’s such a simple thing: why is nobody else doing it?
I’m willing to bet that this “person who had legal access to it” was an IRS employee and that would be a violation of the law under IRS Code IRC Section 6103. If the New York Times published any part of President Trump’s tax returns, it would be in violation of federal law under 26 U.S.C. § 7213(a)(3). I don’t think the First Amendment protects the New York Times from violating federal law.
I believe, and many will support me when I say this is “old news.” Most people in corporate America knew this back when it happened. It’s easy to judge a man by his successes, even his losses. If you can rise from the ashes after those kinds of failures and be successful, that shows perseverance.
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The person or person’s involved in this deserve to be in Prison if they
are or were employees of the IRS then it should be double the fun for
them. 10 years in Federal Prison double the Fine and loss of any government
retirement and all prison time should be at a Maximum security Prison
at Hard labor making Boulders into small rocks and small rocks into
gravel. From Daylight to dusk and just for Good measures make it 10 years
and 1 day so they do the full sentence.
They hate the President so much, they don’t care if somebody has to go to prison to make their case, and their certainly not going to give him credit for anything.
They hate the President so much, they don’t care if somebody has to go to prison to make their case, and their certainly not going to give him credit for anything.
This should start an investigation to once and for all ferret out these Obama holdovers that were left deeply embedded to spy and cause mayhem against conservatives. Find them and put then in jail.
Who cares about Trump’s tax returns? Why are democrat politicians so obsessed with them? If they get their hands on his returns what do they expect to find? Will they find that he is rich? Will they find that he may have made some bad business decisions? We already know that he is rich. And anyone that has done as much business as he has are bound to make a business mistake at some time. Do they expect to fined some legal problem with his taxes? That is what the IRS and audits are for. If Trump has broken any tax laws the IRS will find it. Democrat politicians are just bent on harassing the President. They could put their time to better use.
Who cares about Trump’s tax returns? Why are democrat politicians so obsessed with them? If they get their hands on his returns what do they expect to find? Will they find that he is rich? Will they find that he may have made some bad business decisions? We already know that he is rich. And anyone that has done as much business as he has are bound to make a business mistake at some time. Do they expect to fined some legal problem with his taxes? That is what the IRS and audits are for. If Trump has broken any tax laws the IRS will find it. Democrat politicians are just bent on harassing the President. They could put their time to better use.
I think he also wrote about it in his one book… the more you do in life, the more chances for failure… Trump didn’t let a failure take him down.. he got back up and tried again… that is what is most important.. he kept pushing himself to do better… but they want to condemn him for failures that happened along the way… they aren’t happy with all the good he is doing to help America and the American people… they would rather try and trash him… so pathetic…
God bless president Trump for all the hard work he is doing FOR the American people and by the way, not taking a salary for….
“I believe, and many will support me when I say this is “old news.” Most people in corporate America knew this back when it happened. It’s easy to judge a man by his successes, even his losses. If you can rise from the ashes after those kinds of failures and be successful, that shows perseverance.”
The author is dead on.
The DNC/NYT is printing old news new and spinning it and what the editors of the NYT must be realizing is despite their excellent use of grammar and well told tales we have no reason for good faith in their product.
“I believe, and many will support me when I say this is “old news.” Most people in corporate America knew this back when it happened. It’s easy to judge a man by his successes, even his losses. If you can rise from the ashes after those kinds of failures and be successful, that shows perseverance.”
The author is dead on.
The DNC/NYT is printing old news new and spinning it and what the editors of the NYT must be realizing is despite their excellent use of grammar and well told tales we have no reason for good faith in their product.
The “Alt Left” wants Sharia Law! Let’s give it to them!
If the conspirator spoke the leak, cut out his tongue. If he wrote it, the hand that offends is the hand that pays!
COINCIDENCE? NO WAY >>> Hillary Clinton appeared on TV proposing China illegally hack into President Donald Trump’s tax returns, prompting Twitter users to question both her ability to move on from her presidential election defeat and her sanity. https://www.rt.com/usa/458192-clinton-china-hacking-trump/
COINCIDENCE? NO WAY >>> Hillary Clinton appeared on TV proposing China illegally hack into President Donald Trump’s tax returns, prompting Twitter users to question both her ability to move on from her presidential election defeat and her sanity. https://www.rt.com/usa/458192-clinton-china-hacking-trump/
Exactly…I agree…. Trump has not done anything against the law… he used the tax code to claim his loses which all of us can do if we have them… I’m so sick of them attacking Trump for everything… it is NO one’s business what is in his tax returns… and there is NO law that says he has to release his tax returns to be president… it should never be law… he released a financial statement when he decided to run and supposedly, it shows more than a tax return would…
I lost much in the market over so many years…. I also WROTE that off on my taxes… IT’S LEGAL… it’s written in our tax laws ! How many of you out there CLAIM YOUR KIDS AS A WRITE OFF…. I don’t have kids … there fore I say “That’s not fair” if I was a liberal… but I’m not… It’s the laws in our tax codes.
I lost much in the market over so many years…. I also WROTE that off on my taxes… IT’S LEGAL… it’s written in our tax laws ! How many of you out there CLAIM YOUR KIDS AS A WRITE OFF…. I don’t have kids … there fore I say “That’s not fair” if I was a liberal… but I’m not… It’s the laws in our tax codes.
The conniving Dems and media keep getting hold of pieces of Pres. Trump’s tax information, and salivating about all the “dirt” they’re going to find–and then they look like FOOLS when there is nothing there. Remember Rachael Madcow and her big “reveal” of one of his tax returns? The ONLY thing that return “revealed” was that Pres. Trump gave WAY more to charity by percentage of income than ANY of the stingy Dems, including Obama!
The conniving Dems and media keep getting hold of pieces of Pres. Trump’s tax information, and salivating about all the “dirt” they’re going to find–and then they look like FOOLS when there is nothing there. Remember Rachael Madcow and her big “reveal” of one of his tax returns? The ONLY thing that return “revealed” was that Pres. Trump gave WAY more to charity by percentage of income than ANY of the stingy Dems, including Obama!
Why would anyone care about tax returns that old? The Democrats/Leftist/Liberals are continually grasping at straws and have been continually coming up empty handed and looking like fools.
i agree some should be charged
i agree some should be charged
The person who made Citizen Donald Trump’s tax returns from 30 years ago public Did break the law and ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR should panel a grand jury to investigate The NYT for there involvement.
Why did Obama hide his records, if he had nothing to hide? Oh, because he isn’t a natural born citizen, born on U.S. soil to a citizen FATHER and a citizen mother! His Kenyan, British subject FATHER was not a citizen. He is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
there is NO law that says he must release them… I think it is wrong for people to demand they see them… his financial statement he released when he started to run for president, shows more information that his taxes would… What is in his tax returns is NO ONE’s business
because he doesnt have to by law
because he doesnt have to by law
Because as he has said many times over: no one but a full team of CPA’s with monumental knowledge of corporate, and more importantly IRS tax codes could begin to comprehend what they say. You and I would say “how can a person lose a billion dollars over 10 years and still be in business”? We cannot comprehend it.
Why does Trump refuse to release his tax records if he has nothing to hide?
Why does Trump refuse to release his tax records if he has nothing to hide?
Hey NYT. Ask me if I care?
Can anyone say Lois Lerner? I knew you could.
Can anyone say Lois Lerner? I knew you could.
Thomas Edison’s teachers said he was “too stupid to learn anything.” He was fired from his first two jobs for being “non-productive.” As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb. When a reporter asked, “How did it feel to fail 1,000 times?”
Actually, I believe you just named ALL of them and all were business bankruptcies, not personal bankruptcies. Really, it’s a great track record, considering that he has been involved in over 500 businesses and to have so few that “went sour” is fantastic! Not all businesses can be saved, no matter how much money you pump into them in an effort to make them profitable. His “football team” that he had a shared interest in with a couple of other businessmen, was NOT in the NFL and the NFL virtually “starved them out”. They won the lawsuit they had filed against the NFL, but were awarded $1. Trump “University” was not any kind of college or university. It was simply a real estate course, to try to teach people how to be successful at buying and selling real estate. Some people would NEVER be successful at selling anything, because they just don’t have the personality to sell their way out of a paper bag. MOST people who took the course were very satisfied with the money spent to learn from the best. Those who just “didn’t have the moxie” necessary to be successful were the ones complaining that they were “cheated”. NOT Trump’s fault. Are you really that jealous of Pres. Trump?
Actually, I believe you just named ALL of them and all were business bankruptcies, not personal bankruptcies. Really, it’s a great track record, considering that he has been involved in over 500 businesses and to have so few that “went sour” is fantastic! Not all businesses can be saved, no matter how much money you pump into them in an effort to make them profitable. His “football team” that he had a shared interest in with a couple of other businessmen, was NOT in the NFL and the NFL virtually “starved them out”. They won the lawsuit they had filed against the NFL, but were awarded $1. Trump “University” was not any kind of college or university. It was simply a real estate course, to try to teach people how to be successful at buying and selling real estate. Some people would NEVER be successful at selling anything, because they just don’t have the personality to sell their way out of a paper bag. MOST people who took the course were very satisfied with the money spent to learn from the best. Those who just “didn’t have the moxie” necessary to be successful were the ones complaining that they were “cheated”. NOT Trump’s fault. Are you really that jealous of Pres. Trump?
yeah! but compared to trump, you are forever a failure. mental jealousy coveting, is not a physically profitable asset.
He has far more successes. What have you done, loser?
He has far more successes. What have you done, loser?
Wow!! OliveSub, the honesty in your words floored me. Being human I am not perfect. I have fallen down with the failures in my life, yet I was stubborn and determined to not stay down. My pride would not allow me that cop out. It was hard admitting my mistakes but I learned from them and tried for no repeats. Sometimes I failed sometimes I succeeded. Even in my old age I am still learning and have a long way to go. Thank you OliveSub for clearly outlining truth in its bare meaning.
SO WHAT!!! But he don’t let his failures keep him down.. he gets back up and moves forward and keeps trying and working to be a success.. Just because something fails, doesn’t mean that you are a bad person… failure teaches you and you have to pick yourself up and try again… God bless President Trump… he has never given up and drives himself to do better….
You don’t always know how something with turn out when you attempt a new project… failure is part of life… makes no difference who you are.. rich or poor, at times things don’t work out… BUT when you fail, you pick yourself up and try again… Everyone at some point in their life, has had failures… the more and more you do, the more chances of failures along the way…
Do you condemn everyone who fails at something, or is it only Trump you attack…
SO WHAT!!! But he don’t let his failures keep him down.. he gets back up and moves forward and keeps trying and working to be a success.. Just because something fails, doesn’t mean that you are a bad person… failure teaches you and you have to pick yourself up and try again… God bless President Trump… he has never given up and drives himself to do better….
You don’t always know how something with turn out when you attempt a new project… failure is part of life… makes no difference who you are.. rich or poor, at times things don’t work out… BUT when you fail, you pick yourself up and try again… Everyone at some point in their life, has had failures… the more and more you do, the more chances of failures along the way…
Do you condemn everyone who fails at something, or is it only Trump you attack…
Yeah liberals just choose to have the government support them, they don’t even try. The cons are you liberals who keep throwing anything out there to see if it sticks and nothing has.
Yes, but he keeps trying. That’s more than most people do.
Yes, but he keeps trying. That’s more than most people do.
Yea, like Trump Airlines, Trump University, Trump Casinos, Trump Football, Trump Vodka.. the con-man has so many failed businesses we have lost track of them.
Wouldn’t that be awesome? Bwaahaahaa. Trump News Network. Gotta love it!
Wouldn’t that be awesome? Bwaahaahaa. Trump News Network. Gotta love it!
That person will be found and prosecuted, The New York Times ownership just changed hands and will now be called the Trump News Corp. He will sue them for every penny they have ever made. He’s been waiting for this slip up.
i believe that, would be 5 years for each secret tax return count illegally revealed via espionage as a spy.
i believe that, would be 5 years for each secret tax return count illegally revealed via espionage as a spy.
Five years isn’t nearly long enough, but hell if you put most of the NY Times staff in prison, I’d be satisfied.